Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 23:33:29 +0400 From: Solar Designer <solar@...nwall.com> To: owl-dev@...ts.openwall.com Subject: Re: Regarding GSoC 2012 Hi, On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 12:22:45AM +0530, Gaurav wrote: > I am interested in contributing to Kernel-hardening project under Openwall. > Could someone please tell me what are all skill set expected from a student > participating in this project. It's not so much about skill set, but rather it's about mindset and already being involved, although indeed you will need some skills and experience as well (e.g., have some vulnerabilities discovered in the past, have some patches already accepted into the Linux kernel - or at the very least proposed). I recall that you previously inquired about GSoC 2011, and we failed to follow-up on one of your messages (sorry!): http://www.openwall.com/lists/owl-dev/2011/04/06/3 Yes, we did not specifically tell you what to start from, yet a student who we would potentially want to work with under GSoC would be capable of proposing things and trying to contribute on his/her own - e.g., at least you could participate in discussions on this list if you had something helpful to say. Since you did not, it is unrealistic that we'll accept you under GSoC 2012 (not to mention that it's far from certain that we'll be in GSoC 2012 ourselves). Among our criteria for student acceptance is genuine interest. So far, by only expressing your interest in GSoC context, you demonstrated insufficient genuine interest in our projects. I do not mean to imply that you're solely after the money; you may as well be after knowledge, which is great. When we accept a student under GSoC, we actually have to mentor the student even if this costs us so much time that it becomes unreasonable (or we fail the student). It might pay off in the long run if the student sticks around and becomes a real contributor later. However, that's not what we're into. (It might be different for some other orgs, some of which might not mind making such risky investments.) I hope you will find the above helpful (as I intended it to be) rather than offensive (although I realize that it might be seen as such). I am merely being sincere, and I appreciate your inquiries. Alexander
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