Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 02:58:13 +0800 From: orc <orc@...server.ru> To: musl@...ts.openwall.com Subject: Re: Re: Vision for new platform On Sun, 10 Jun 2012 20:38:57 +0200 Daniel Cegiełka <daniel.cegielka@...il.com> wrote: > >> Do we have some conclusions? systemd+udev is resource hungry, so > >> the question is, what next? Do we have to think about preparing a > >> new solution? > > > > The problem with systemd is that it is not only bloated > > all-in-pid-number-1 thing that depends on dbus, it *comes* from > > freedesktop, which reputation is not so good at software > > engineering. And udev is going to be merged with that codebase. > > And important thing: not to repeat already repeated mistakes. > > I understand that and instead systemd I prefer to stay with > sysvinit+openrc... but the only solution is to prepare a new init > stuff from scratch (systemd+udev+dbus alternative). Do you see another > solution? Maybe new init stuff, maybe daemon that will control other daemons and get launched from inittab for example. I'm just trying to warn that this must not be a second systemd and that's all. Sure that adequate non-bloated alternative should exist. Maybe it should be developed as a part of new platform that we all want to have, because as an alternative alone it will not be accepted well.
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