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Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 23:31:41 -0400
From: Rich Felker <>
Subject: Re: Hello

On Fri, Jun 08, 2012 at 01:15:16AM +0800, orc wrote:
> On Thu, 7 Jun 2012 12:19:28 -0400
> Rich Felker <> wrote:
> > As far as the server goes, even the oldest X server versions should
> > work fine with modern software (aside from possibly being really slow
> > when the software wants to do 3D, etc.). That's how X was designed.
> > 
> Of course we need modern X11libs for that. But yes, server expects only
> Xau, Xdmcp, crypto for ssl (modern X links to stuff like udev, pixman
> and others, but this can be avoided).
> When building and running X I got only one thing: for 3D, games and so
> on I need a dedicated machine with videoboard vendor's drivers (no
> matter opensource it or proprietary). For anything else, I would use
> vesa.
Unless reading video memory has gotten substantially faster (i.e. the
same speed as main memory) I don't think vesa suffices for ANY use.
The way the X server is written, almost all common operations require
reading back from video memory if implemented in software. This could
be avoided by changing the implementation to do everything on a
mirrored buffer in main memory and only copy the final version to
video memory, but as far as I know that was never done.

If I'm wrong and video memory access issues have changed all this much
in the past 4 or 5 years, please ignore this message...

> So there is a question: will musl support this configs? Or I will
> need patchelf and 'libc6-legacy' for them?

It's intended to work, but I don't know whether it does yet.


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