Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2018 14:45:29 +0200 From: Solar Designer <solar@...nwall.com> To: john-users@...ts.openwall.com Subject: Re: good program for sorting large wordlists On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 02:07:04PM +0200, JohnyKrekan wrote: > My question now is not about sorting but about the wordlist which you would > use for hash testing and is already saved on disk, the smaller (with all > words lowercase) or the bigger (mixed). Is it better to let the program for > example EWSA make the case modifications or use bigger one and disable all > the case modifying rules. Oh, you didn't include a question mark there, so I assumed it wasn't a question but rather you stating the dilemma. Ideally, you'd combine the advantages of both approaches using e.g.: ./john -w=input.lst --rules=best64 --min-length=8 --stdout | ./unique output.lst assuming that the first rule is to keep words as-is. Then you'd use output.lst either with JtR itself or with another tool like EWSA (why?) Here, input.lst is your original wordlist with the mixed-case lines still intact. If the first rule isn't to keep words as-is (not a colon, ":"), then you can revise the command e.g. to: (./john -w=input.lst --min-length=8 --stdout && ./john -w=input.lst --rules=someother --min-length=8 --stdout) | ./unique output.lst or you can indeed add a colon to the start of the "someother" ruleset, then use the simpler command. Alexander
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