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Date: Fri, 25 May 2018 19:23:35 +0100
From: Eric Watson <ea-watson@...ginmedia.com>
To: john-users@...ts.openwall.com
Subject: Re: john --make-charset=custom.chr: Can't get the hang
 of using it. :-(

I am using Xubuntu, Opera browser via a VPN.

'Does not work' =


  This site can’t be reached

*xinn.org*took too long to respond.


Thank you for your succinct reply my questions.

Eric

On 25/05/18 18:39, Solar Designer wrote:
> On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 11:46:02AM +0100, Eric Watson wrote:
>> But first to mention that one of the links supplied by "rich" does not work.
>>
>>   https://xinn.org/blog/JtR-AD-Password-Auditing.html
> Works for me.  I think this is Rich's own website.  For him to be able
> to correct whatever problem there might be, you'd need to explain how
> exactly this link "does not work" for you and maybe in what web browser.
>
>> Alexander, you mention, "training" incremental method. Can you explain
>> "training" please?
> As doc/MODES says, incremental "mode deals with trigraph frequencies,
> separately for each character position and for each password length,
> to crack as many passwords as possible within a limited time."  It
> obtains those frequencies when you "train" it on previously-cracked
> passwords, using the "--make-charset" option.
>
>> I find it confusing until it is pointed out that "wordlist" and "passwd"
>> are not in fact words but instead are hashes. I must remember that
>> everything revolves around hashes.
> I don't know what mention of "wordlist" you refer to.  I think there's
> no such confusion about "wordlist".  When we say "wordlist", we mean a
> list of words or other strings to base candidate passwords on.  We do
> not mean hashes.
>
> Yes, "passwd" traditionally refers to a file with hashes - that's due to
> Unix having password hashes in a file called /etc/passwd.
>
> Alexander
>


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