Date: Fri, 25 May 2018 19:23:35 +0100 From: Eric Watson <ea-watson@...ginmedia.com> To: john-users@...ts.openwall.com Subject: Re: john --make-charset=custom.chr: Can't get the hang of using it. :-( I am using Xubuntu, Opera browser via a VPN. 'Does not work' = This site can’t be reached *xinn.org*took too long to respond. Thank you for your succinct reply my questions. Eric On 25/05/18 18:39, Solar Designer wrote: > On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 11:46:02AM +0100, Eric Watson wrote: >> But first to mention that one of the links supplied by "rich" does not work. >> >> https://xinn.org/blog/JtR-AD-Password-Auditing.html > Works for me. I think this is Rich's own website. For him to be able > to correct whatever problem there might be, you'd need to explain how > exactly this link "does not work" for you and maybe in what web browser. > >> Alexander, you mention, "training" incremental method. Can you explain >> "training" please? > As doc/MODES says, incremental "mode deals with trigraph frequencies, > separately for each character position and for each password length, > to crack as many passwords as possible within a limited time." It > obtains those frequencies when you "train" it on previously-cracked > passwords, using the "--make-charset" option. > >> I find it confusing until it is pointed out that "wordlist" and "passwd" >> are not in fact words but instead are hashes. I must remember that >> everything revolves around hashes. > I don't know what mention of "wordlist" you refer to. I think there's > no such confusion about "wordlist". When we say "wordlist", we mean a > list of words or other strings to base candidate passwords on. We do > not mean hashes. > > Yes, "passwd" traditionally refers to a file with hashes - that's due to > Unix having password hashes in a file called /etc/passwd. > > Alexander >
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