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Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2014 01:31:04 -0400
From: Rich Felker <>
To: Tim Tassonis <>
Cc: Natanael Copa <>,
Subject: Re: Release very far behind schedule

On Thu, Oct 09, 2014 at 12:57:46PM +0200, Tim Tassonis wrote:
> >> On October 8, 2014 4:53:36 PM Rich Felker <> wrote:
> >> > Jeremy is aware that the wiki is down but doesn't have much
> >> > time to devote to it, so we should look for a new solution for hosting
> >> > and maintaining it in the future.
> >>
> >> I could do the hosting for free, as me and a friend run a little hosting
> >> business.
> >> I'd have to know what software you'd need on the server, but this shouldn't
> >> be a problem, we have ubuntu servers with apache, php, mysql and postgres,
> >> normal stuff. If you need something else, we could install that, too.
> >
> >How about using Alpine Linux for it so its powered by musl libc?

While not essential, this would certainly be nice.

> Well, it would be a shared hosting on an existing system, so the os
> cannot be changed, I'm afraid.

I don't want to be micro-managing things like hosting and maintenance
of the wiki, which is obviously something of a time-drain. However, I
do tend to think shared hosting is a poor solution these days:

- It makes it a lot more of a pain to move, if we need to do so again
  in the future -- instead of just re-deploying a fully working system
  image, individual software components need to be installed and
  configured to match the expectations of the site.

- It's generally much less robust and secure. Security bugs, or just
  out-of-control memory usage and load, from another site on the same
  hosting can bring down or compromise the wiki. Being that it's just
  the wiki and not the git/release hosting, that's not a huge concern,
  but it still counts for something.

I'm ok with keeping any options open for now, but let's see if we can
get some more to consider too. All in all, the more-important issue
anyway seems to be making sure we have somebody who's going to be with
the project for at least a moderately long term and have time and
resources to devote to keeping the wiki running well -- dealing with
spam, account troubles, hosting problems, etc.


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