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Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 23:36:41 +0100
From: John Spencer <>
Subject: Re: Status of 1.0 wishlist items?

On 12/13/2012 11:03 PM, Rich Felker wrote:
>> Source-level compatibility goals:
>> - LAMP stack
> I'm guessing we may still have some issues here with mysql and perhaps
> Apache. The other components work, I believe..

apache is a must-have... unfortunately.
i can look into it.
berkeley db and php are working so far.
>> - GUI stacks (GTK3, Qt, Webkit, deps like Pango, Cairo, etc.)
> As far as I know, these are working. Am I right?

Gtk+2, pango, cairo work without patches, i didnt test Qt, Webkit, Gtk+3.
>> - Wine (?)
> No idea.
would be nice if that compiled... maybe i'll look at it later.
>> - Development stack (GCC, LLVM/clang, GDB, strace, ...)
> Has anybody built LLVM/clang on musl? I believe the set of patches
> needed for GDB has been reduced quite a bit now, but I'm not sure what
> the status on strace is...
i built clang half a year ago, it required quite a lot of patches tho.
since that was a SVN version, i didnt collect the patches into a 
sabotage package.
i guess i'll wait for the next release to come out, or apply the calloc 
bugfix manually to 3.2.

gdb and strace are full of horrible ifdef orgies and glibc-assuming 
code, and still need a ton of patches.
need to look into the strace git to see if my patches were accepted...

>> - Xorg (with actual drivers)
> What issues are remaining here? This is probably the single most
> important compatibility problem we've got.
the X stuff requires knowing a lot of stuff and tricks about it, which i 
i still hope someone originating from the suckless or arch linux 
communities, (ppl that seem to love to play around with exotic window 
managers etc..)
tackles this.
maybe someone could follow the LFS recipes and try to make it work ?

>> - LFS stack (minus possibly some useless stuff)
> No idea.
well, sabotage is more or less based on LFS, so most things in there 
should build, except some dark X11 corners that sabotage hasnt touched yet.
>> - QEMU
> My understanding is that QEMU is working now, with minimal or no
> patching. Is this right?

the major remaining issue is the missing ifaddr.h functionality.
once that is patched out, qemu builds OOB with musl-git on x86_64 and ARM.
i guess for PPC and others we need to add some REG_XY values to signal.h 
to make it happy.
>> - Multimedia (FFmpeg/libav/x264/etc.)
> Unless there have been regressions, this stuff should all be working,
> but it would be nice to check.
alsa seems to work, however there are some really nasty patches needed, 
i.e. the one that hardcodes the mutex initializer:
sed -i 
sdl works as well, i haven't tested any video stuff though.

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