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Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 12:16:00 -0800
To: "" <>
Subject: Re: Summary of 1.0 marketing plan/scheme/nefarious plot from IRC.

I would try enlightenment, it's a stack that is reasonably portable and utilized within a few embedded projects which IMO is a good fit with musl. A few things need to be fixed within the codebase though specifically the feature macros from what I glanced at.

On Nov 30, 2012, at 11:05 AM, Rich Felker <> wrote:

> On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 03:29:31PM +0100, Luca Barbato wrote:
>> On 11/30/12 2:27 AM, Rich Felker wrote:
>>> I'd go with xfce or lxde. Last I checked fvwm still didn't even have
>>> modern text support (using legacy X font system). BTW, supposedly the
>>> new HarfBuzz and other text rendering stack stuff has taken a turn in
>>> the direction we like. I saw an article on the redesign that claimed
>>> 98-99% drop in bloat for working with fonts. I mention this mainly
>>> because, as much as a lot of us are unhappy with FDO and related
>>> projects, it would be nice to support and praise when that stuff does
>>> move in the right direction.
>> HarfBuzz isn't that strange not-quite-C++-yet-C++ franken-library?
> Bleh, it looks like it was converted to C++ at some point. This is a
> major disappointment. Add "opentype interpreter" to the list of core
> system components that need to be replaced... Fortunately, I think
> this is something that can be done in at most a couple thousand lines
> of C.
> .. WTF. On looking at it again, it seems to be C source with .cc
> extension on all the source files. No idea what they were thinking.
> I'd be interested in hearing the story on this.
> Rich

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