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Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 14:05:26 -0500
From: Rich Felker <>
Subject: Re: Summary of 1.0 marketing plan/scheme/nefarious plot from

On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 03:29:31PM +0100, Luca Barbato wrote:
> On 11/30/12 2:27 AM, Rich Felker wrote:
> > I'd go with xfce or lxde. Last I checked fvwm still didn't even have
> > modern text support (using legacy X font system). BTW, supposedly the
> > new HarfBuzz and other text rendering stack stuff has taken a turn in
> > the direction we like. I saw an article on the redesign that claimed
> > 98-99% drop in bloat for working with fonts. I mention this mainly
> > because, as much as a lot of us are unhappy with FDO and related
> > projects, it would be nice to support and praise when that stuff does
> > move in the right direction.
> HarfBuzz isn't that strange not-quite-C++-yet-C++ franken-library?

Bleh, it looks like it was converted to C++ at some point. This is a
major disappointment. Add "opentype interpreter" to the list of core
system components that need to be replaced... Fortunately, I think
this is something that can be done in at most a couple thousand lines
of C.

.. WTF. On looking at it again, it seems to be C source with .cc
extension on all the source files. No idea what they were thinking.
I'd be interested in hearing the story on this.


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