Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 09:18:14 -0400 From: Rich Felker <dalias@...ifal.cx> To: musl@...ts.openwall.com Subject: Re: [PATCH] makefile: add silent rules On Thu, Jun 07, 2012 at 03:12:48PM +0200, Igmar Palsenberg wrote: > > > > make V=1 to disable them > > <snip> > > This was NACK'ed a month ago. I'm with the NACK crew, I hardly find > this useful, and I like fast scrolling terminals :) I'm not as adamant on it, but I'm also in the group that doesn't like this "new style" of makefile output. Most annoyingly, when something goes wrong, you have to re-run make with V=1 to see what was actually happening. Oftentimes I find I want to rerun a command with -S instead of -c (to examine the generated asm) or with different CFLAGS when dealing with an unexpected ICE or similar. By the way, I'm also against using $(RM), $(LN), etc.; as far as I can tell that's useless Windows pandering, since these commands are entirely standard on POSIX. $(INSTALL) might make sense (since it's not specified in the standards) but it would be a low priority. The reason $(AR) and $(RANLIB) exist is for the purpose of cross compiling (although in reality, .a files are mostly arch-agnostic and the host ar probably works fine for the target). Rich
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