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Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2019 19:40:16 -0400
From: Rich Rumble <richrumble@...il.com>
To: john-users@...ts.openwall.com
Subject: Re: database of more rules

On Fri, Aug 9, 2019 at 7:17 PM Rich Rumble <richrumble@...il.com> wrote:

> On Fri, Aug 9, 2019 at 9:18 AM Johny Krekan <krekan@...nykrekan.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hello, I am trying to create wordlist which contains original words as
>> well
>> as words modified by rules to be next used in programs which do not have
>> rules options when using dictionary attack. I have used following syntax
>> on
>> Windows:
>> john --wordlist=original.txt --rules --stdout >listwithrules.txt
>> After running that, the john generated 50 mangled words from a single
>> one.
>> I would like to ask whether some of you have larger database of rule
>> which
>> I could include in to my configuration to be able to create more
>> derivates
>> for example like the elcomsoft wireless security auditor has.
>> Thanx for info
>> Johny Krekan
>>
> You've given no rules, so I was surprised that command worked at all!-)
> c:\john\run>echo 1-word >1word.txt
> c:\john\run>john -w=1word.txt -rules -stdout
>    Using default input encoding: UTF-8
>   1-word
>   1-wrd
>   1-word
> 3p 0:00:00:00 100.00% (2019-08-09 19:08) 24.19p/s 1-word
> -----------
> I find that a little curious, but not 100% unexpected.
> If you look through the john.conf file and accompanying .conf files you
> will see a huge amount of rules.
> Popular rules are:
> -rules=jumbo (This rule runs 4 other sets of rules)
> -rules-best64
> -rules=wordlist
> -rules=single
> -rules=korelogic
>
> If I run --rules=single on "one word" it expands to 519 guesses.
> -rules=jumbo is 3722
> -rules=best64 is 72
> and -rules=korelogic is ...a lot, but was fun to watch!
> -rich
>
Nearly 7 million guesses (korelogic)
<snip>
1-word 999993
1-word 999994
1-word 999995
1-word 999996
1-word 999997
1-word 999998
1-word 999999
6937072p 0:00:11:57 100.00% (2019-08-09 19:27) 9664p/s 1-word 999999
</snip>

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