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Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 14:47:34 -0400
From: Rich Rumble <>
Subject: Re: Re: [john-dev] [RFC] Johnny upcoming release !

On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 2:07 PM, Shinnok <> wrote:
> Hi to all,
> We're working hard and getting close to the 2.0 release of Johnny. However we need at least *some* input on the following topic:
> Regarding the bundling of JtR with Johnny, for Windows and OS X, is this of enough value to justify the effort and the potential support confusion/hassle following? My main concerns are:
> 1. It doesn't make sense from Johnny's perspective to bundle anything but the latest bleeding jumbo;
> 2. The *official* JtR jumbo builds are old, so what we need to do is either build ourselves or use builds done by Rich or similar;
> 3. At least for OS X, there are alternative paths for easily installing JtR like Homebrew (admittedly jumbo version formula is stuck at jumbo-1, though some effort on our part to get it to the latest tag wouldn't hurt overall)
> 4. We could point people in the documentation and in Johnny to the available places for downloading their choosing of JtR flavoring;
I think it'd be best for everyone if they were separate, with links to
each "flavor's" binary and or src builds.
> Unless this discussion yields a different conclusion, bundling JtR with Johnny is not considered for this first release.
I concur.

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