Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 22:25:17 -0400 From: Rich Rumble <richrumble@...il.com> To: john-users@...ts.openwall.com Subject: Re: Pipe/Stdin rule to append/prefix On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 3:22 PM, Solar Designer <solar@...nwall.com> wrote: > On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 07:16:28PM +0100, magnum wrote: > > On 27 Mar, 2013, at 16:39 , Rich Rumble <richrumble@...il.com> wrote: > > > I'd love to have rules that can use incremental as prefixing/suffixing > > > (within reasonable limits) > > > > This would actually be trivial to add support for, as far as I know. But > there may be dragons. I've had the idea to enable it just for testing for > side-effects (eg. in terms of performance when not used). > > > > I have a feeling there is a reason it's not supported in core... Solar? > > As to incremental mode, trying to fit it > in wordlist rules feels weird. I'd rather have it usable along with > rules via the stacking feature, and if it needs to be invoked for a > subset of the rules only, then the batch mode specification could > specify the combinations of rulesets and incremental modes to run. > I've been able to do it outside (using word machine aword/pword)and then into stdin for john with good success. It'd be harder perhaps if I weren't doing it on digits only, I'd have to pick a good place to stop creating candidates for alnum. I'm just at a point in this hash list that I need digits out to the 5th-6th character, but "dumbforce" would take much longer on my current wordlist. I know I could split the work up further, but I just wanted to see the yields, and I like seeing the long digits working so quickly! It's certainly led to a new pattern :) 38630thomas 62156thomas 68200thomas 80320thomas 84300thomas 020277victor 102030victor 135790victor 3115victor 350211victor 66250victor 7502victor 56300vincent 8188vincent 97442william electro230697 etienne197795 kristi31355 target455971 Thanks again, I'll be first in line to test anything new along these lines. -rich
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