Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 15:44:42 -0500 From: Rich Rumble <richrumble@...il.com> To: john-users@...ts.openwall.com Subject: Re: NT vs NT2 explained (was: LM with empty strings = password longer than 15 chars?) On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 2:26 PM, john wittgeinstein <pandemonium@....us> wrote: > You mentioned MD4, what is very interesting. When I secede the hash, and leave only Administrator:NT-hash, put it through ( $ john hash ) it recognizes it as raw MD5? > Why? When i put it in the form Admin:500:LM:NT::: it recognizes it as NT... Jtr makes a guess at the hash type, PWdump format helps john assume the LM format, but both LM and NT look like MD5 when not in the pwdump format. http://openwall.info/wiki/john/hash-formats <username>:<uid>:<LM-hash>:<NTLM-hash>:<comment>:<homedir>: Pwdump format is not typical, come to think of it, having a case insentive hash next to a case sensitive one of the same password is not typical. -rich
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