Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 12:19:47 -0400 From: Rich Rumble <richrumble@...il.com> To: john-users@...ts.openwall.com Subject: Re: our own training pseudo contest before CMIYC 2012 On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 11:48 AM, Frank Dittrich <frank_dittrich@...mail.com> wrote: > Wouldn't other preparations for the real contest more important? In addition to all the points Frank made, coordination as further evidenced from PHDays is one of the key point's we are lacking. I think things improved year to year so far, but we need an even bigger effort there I think. Additional scripts or features probably need to be put forth soon for either the practice or the cmiyc contest. I'm not saying we need a single person "barking" orders and delegating tasks, however that is one form of coordination. We do need something to keep track of who is doing what and perhaps the progress of that task/item. Also we use a "contest" version of john, it typically supports more than the 8 character default incremental mode with new chr files (naturally). We may also want to "inventory" the "horsepower" that's available so that someone with a really fast GPU may take on a harder challenge than another person without a GPU. I think we can have a better showing if we use our resources a bit better. I personally have 6-10 machines I can use, so I can run a large "node/fork" task, if others have that many or more, perhaps they are a better choice for fork and node... I know in other contests we all kind of volunteered to do things via email, but email is a terrible coordination mechanism. I'm not sure Jabber/IRC or IM in general is better, I am thinking of making a stats/status page perhaps that can keep track of who has what. I don't know yet I'll have to think on it more. I do like trying to do a pre-contest "dry run", it would be good practice and should help iron out some of the coordination efforts. -rich
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