Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 18:08:20 +0400 From: Solar Designer <solar@...nwall.com> To: john-users@...ts.openwall.com Subject: Re: irc channel for Openwall On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 06:49:47PM +0300, Shinnok wrote: > I have been looking for an official irc channel for Openwall where > people can ask questions or just idle around on issues pertaining to > JtR, Owl, oss-security and everything Openwall in general. Is there an > #openwall channel somewhere or for individual projects like #owl? I > have been scouring openwall.com and freenode but I couldn't find > something official. There's #openwall on Freenode, but we don't actually idle in there, so it's usually empty or near-empty. I'm on that channel at the moment, though - just because you brought the issue up. I see a few others joining... oh, and you just did, too. :-) With GSoC, I think it makes sense for us to schedule meetings on the channel, maybe weekly. > There is #oss-security on freenode but I'm not sure > about it's official status? It was setup by folks from the oss-security mailing list and it is mentioned on the oss-security wiki: http://oss-security.openwall.org/wiki/about I think it is as official as it can get for a community. > I find having an interactive communication channel pretty important on > projects of these size and complexity(thinking Owl and JtR somewhat). > Most of the other security open source projects have some kind of > presence on irc, #bactrack-linux for Backtrack, #nmap for Nmap or > #metasploit for Metasploit, all on freenode, just to name a few. Right. My concern, though, is that this may result in useful discussions (such as with JtR usage tips) going IRC-only, with nothing posted about them to the proper mailing lists. Thus, answers to users' questions, etc. will benefit a lot fewer people than they do on the mailing lists. > A good place for such a channel would be freenode of course and I'm the > first offering to idle on it and answer questions that I can or ask > questions of my own. Thank you! I appreciate this. Would you also post about important discussions, helpful tips, etc. to the proper mailing lists? That would be great. > Apologies for sending this e-mail to john-users, but there's no other > more appropriate list other then owl-users. If Solar Designer thinks > this question is appropriate for owl-users too, please forward this to > that list too. I think we need to inform owl-users once there's someone idling on the channel (that is, on #openwall on Freenode). Feel free to post in there. Thanks again, Alexander
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