Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2010 09:35:54 +0400 From: Solar Designer <solar@...nwall.com> To: john-users@...ts.openwall.com Subject: contest results Brandon - congrats to you and CrackHeads on what looks like your third place: http://contest.korelogic.com/stats.html Apparently, we're 4th. On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 03:06:46AM +0000, Brandon Enright wrote: > ... I am going to compete in the > contest and I'm not on the john-users team. If I had known a month ago > there was interest I would have joined. Now that I have prepared for > the contest I want to compete with my own team. This is understandable, although you could have just asked whether there was interest a month ago. ;-) > As I told SD, no matter what team wins, I have little doubt that it > will be a John-powered victory. This is now doubtful. The two winning teams, according to their names, relied on closed-source software, although I suspect that they were using John as well (and indeed John has indirectly contributed to what those closed-source programs have become). Brandon, Minga - I'd appreciate more info on what each team has been using/doing - hardware (and cost incurred, if any), software (free or previously acquired, I suppose?), password cracking techniques, team management (e.g., what separate roles?), how many team members (and how many of them actually "active"), external contributions accepted (e.g., if another team shared their passwords) and how much help they were (e.g., 90% overlap with what the team already had), also info on stuff used by those external contributors if known. I am willing to provide this info on our team. Also, I am curious about cumulative scores for multiple teams - e.g., what if CrackHeads and john-users joined (which did not happen) - would we definitely be 2nd (hardly) or maybe not (which we can't know for sure from mere analysis of the results now, which Kore may perform, because if we acted as one team we'd actually crack more)? What would the cumulative score be for all submissions, by all teams? by the first two? by all except for the first two (if they all joined, would they surpass the winners or maybe-not)? Thanks, Alexander
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