Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 02:51:01 +0300 From: Solar Designer <solar@...nwall.com> To: john-users@...ts.openwall.com Subject: Re: keyspace, mask password and dumb bruteforce On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 04:45:17PM -0600, Billy Newsom wrote: > You know, if I might butt in here... I haven't looked at > http://distributed.net/ in a long time, but for the last 10 years at least > they have had clients, and open source clients, which are made to > distribute blocks of hashes to be cracked with a number of different > algorithms. It's not "blocks of hashes" that they distribute, but it does not matter in this context anyway. > In other words, it is already a distributed form of John, No, it is not. The way they distribute the workload is inappropriate for almost all uses of John. Also, the security threats are different. > Why don't you see if the licenses of the codes would allow you to sort of > meld the d.net client/server platforms with the complexity of John. This doesn't make sense for almost all uses of John. The exception is when you're willing to throw a lot of computing resources at cracking one publicly known hash, and you cannot or don't care to optimize the order in which candidate passwords are tried. > In effect, the interface of John is terrible but powerful, while the > distributed clients are easy but pretty dumb. I think you need easy and > dumb and distributed... Now just hack their stuff to do the cracking you > need to do, right? Probably over-simplifying, but that's my 2 cents. I'm not sure what you're referring to here. The user interface? If so, it has little to do with how the workload is distributed. > I would much rather work with something already into networking and hash > passing and key distribution instead of hacking into jTr. Look, there's a > wheel! That's up to you. :-) Alexander -- To unsubscribe, e-mail john-users-unsubscribe@...ts.openwall.com and reply to the automated confirmation request that will be sent to you.
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