Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2013 15:37:59 +0400 From: Solar Designer <solar@...nwall.com> To: john-dev@...ts.openwall.com Subject: john-users vs. john-dev (was: Getting more from DYNAMIC) On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 10:53:05PM +0200, Nicolas RUFF wrote: > Sorry for the misunderstanding, I re-posted on 'john-users' as suggested. Thanks! As you can see, you got a couple of replies there, which may also benefit other users. There are almost 7 times more subscribers on john-users than on john-dev, so it'd be a pity to keep those user relevant replies restricted to the john-dev membership only. And like I said, almost everyone on john-dev is supposed to also be on john-users. > PS. At first look I had the impression that 'john-users' was more like > 'dude, where is my config file ?'. This is precisely what I am trying to change. The separation between the users and dev lists is not meant to be basic vs. advanced stuff, it is meant to be user-relevant vs. development-only. Before john-dev was setup, everything was on john-users (well, and in private e-mail, etc.) Then we setup john-dev to move in here discussions of source code changes, which end-users (even advanced ones) would mostly not be interested in (and the few who are interested could join us on john-dev). Unfortunately, a side-effect of that was that some other advanced topics also moved in here, thereby shifting the focus of the john-users list to more basic topics. This doesn't have to be so. > As I actually had a look at John > source code before asking my question, I felt empowered to reach > 'john-dev' :) It's not about (not) being "empowered". It is about benefiting more people with the resulting discussion thread. Thanks again, Alexander
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