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Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2017 09:32:18 +0100
From: "e@...tmx.net" <e@...tmx.net>
To: passwords@...ts.openwall.com
Subject: Re: Authentication vs identification

> But consider:
> 
> The standard definitions that so many of us have given you

have had led us into the mess where non-secret identifiers are commonly 
used as auth tokens, where the entire credit card system is thoroughly 
useless, and still is being used.

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