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Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2017 16:53:58 +0100
From: Matlink <>
Subject: Re: Authentication vs identification

You won a point, Authentication¹ is often an action from the user
(unless continuous authentification), while Identification is rather
done by the service.

¹: I previously made a typo cause in french the translation is very close.

Le 15/12/2017 à 16:49, a écrit :
> On 12/15/2017 04:44 PM, Matlink wrote:
>> Basically:
>> Authentification is verifying 
> by the user himself
> (i prefer to make definitions precise, which voice is active and which
> is passive)
>> that an user is really the one she's
>> pretending to be (i.e. by asking for a password).
>> Identification is trying to put an identity on someone, like her name is
>> Alice Smith from London (or less precisely by tracking her across
>> websites).
> in other words "THEY DO IT TO YOU"
> with or without your consent,
> although you need them to do it to you for your benefit quite often.
>> Le 15/12/2017 à 16:32, Alex Smirnoff a écrit :
>>> It confuses me as well. Isn't it exactly the opposite? Identification
>>> involves a person, and authentication involves abstract "entity" which
>>> could be non-person, group of people or whatever.
>>> On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 09:29:16AM +0100, Eugene Panferov wrote:
>>>> it dawned on me recently, the difference between the two is easy to
>>>> grasp
>>>> and easy to formulate:
>>>> You do want exactly one man to be capable of authentication.
>>>> You do want multiple men to be capable of identification.

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