Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2017 16:53:58 +0100 From: Matlink <matlink@...link.fr> To: passwords@...ts.openwall.com Subject: Re: Authentication vs identification You won a point, Authentication¹ is often an action from the user (unless continuous authentification), while Identification is rather done by the service. ¹: I previously made a typo cause in french the translation is very close. Le 15/12/2017 à 16:49, e@...tmx.net a écrit : > On 12/15/2017 04:44 PM, Matlink wrote: >> Basically: >> >> Authentification is verifying > > by the user himself > (i prefer to make definitions precise, which voice is active and which > is passive) > >> that an user is really the one she's >> pretending to be (i.e. by asking for a password). > > >> Identification is trying to put an identity on someone, like her name is >> Alice Smith from London (or less precisely by tracking her across >> websites). > > in other words "THEY DO IT TO YOU" > with or without your consent, > although you need them to do it to you for your benefit quite often. > > >> Le 15/12/2017 à 16:32, Alex Smirnoff a écrit : >>> It confuses me as well. Isn't it exactly the opposite? Identification >>> involves a person, and authentication involves abstract "entity" which >>> could be non-person, group of people or whatever. >>> >>> On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 09:29:16AM +0100, Eugene Panferov wrote: >>>> it dawned on me recently, the difference between the two is easy to >>>> grasp >>>> and easy to formulate: >>>> >>>> You do want exactly one man to be capable of authentication. >>>> You do want multiple men to be capable of identification. >> > -- Matlink - Sysadmin matlink.fr Sortez couverts, chiffrez vos mails : https://café-vie-privée.fr/ XMPP/Jabber : matlink@...link.fr Clé publique PGP : 0x186BB3CA Empreinte Off-the-record : 572174BF 6983EA74 91417CA7 705ED899 DE9D05B2
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