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Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2022 21:36:15 +0000
From: Sam James <sam@...too.org>
To: oss-security@...ts.openwall.com
Cc: John Helmert III <ajak@...too.org>
Subject: Re: WebKitGTK and WPE WebKit Security Advisory
WSA-2022-0001
> On 29 Jan 2022, at 20:16, Leo Famulari <leo@...ulari.name> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 08:13:15AM -0600, John Helmert III wrote:
>> I don't think it makes much sense for every downstream to make these
>> kinds of assumptions.
>
> Why not? History shows that this assumption will almost always be
> correct for WebKit.
>
>> Besides, this doesn't seem to be what's
>> happening in practice. For example, WSA-2021-0006 was released on
>> October 26, 2021 with vulnerabilities addressed in 2.34.0, released on
>> September 22, but RedHat's bugs for it were only opened in the days
>> after the *security advisory's* release, not the software release. It
>> doesn't help that most most distribution security tooling seems to be
>> oriented around CVEs, which aren't released for WebKit until after the
>> associated advisory.
>
> I'm sure that Red Hat's package maintainers know what a WebKit update
> means. Presumably they are busy and their KPIs prioritize fixing CVEs,
> so they don't act as proactively as one might prefer.
>
> In general, it seems that WebKit is handling these issues like Linux.
> Observers know that important bugs are fixed constantly in software of
> this size and complexity. Relying only on CVEs is too reactive and
> limited in scope to provide a meaningful security stance, increasingly
> so since the CVE assignment system stopped working in the last few
> years.
This isn't an argument against WebKit Doing The Right Thing (TM).
There's no need for us to rehash the standard arguments for/against
bothering with CVEs at all.
The point is that CVE notifications are useful for some of us and
it _seems_ (obviously I can't know) that they're intentionally not
published at the same time as release notes, often a week or more later.
I, and John, are just saying that if possible, it'd be a big help for
them to do so.
Best,
sam
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