Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2022 21:36:15 +0000 From: Sam James <sam@...too.org> To: oss-security@...ts.openwall.com Cc: John Helmert III <ajak@...too.org> Subject: Re: WebKitGTK and WPE WebKit Security Advisory WSA-2022-0001 > On 29 Jan 2022, at 20:16, Leo Famulari <leo@...ulari.name> wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 08:13:15AM -0600, John Helmert III wrote: >> I don't think it makes much sense for every downstream to make these >> kinds of assumptions. > > Why not? History shows that this assumption will almost always be > correct for WebKit. > >> Besides, this doesn't seem to be what's >> happening in practice. For example, WSA-2021-0006 was released on >> October 26, 2021 with vulnerabilities addressed in 2.34.0, released on >> September 22, but RedHat's bugs for it were only opened in the days >> after the *security advisory's* release, not the software release. It >> doesn't help that most most distribution security tooling seems to be >> oriented around CVEs, which aren't released for WebKit until after the >> associated advisory. > > I'm sure that Red Hat's package maintainers know what a WebKit update > means. Presumably they are busy and their KPIs prioritize fixing CVEs, > so they don't act as proactively as one might prefer. > > In general, it seems that WebKit is handling these issues like Linux. > Observers know that important bugs are fixed constantly in software of > this size and complexity. Relying only on CVEs is too reactive and > limited in scope to provide a meaningful security stance, increasingly > so since the CVE assignment system stopped working in the last few > years. This isn't an argument against WebKit Doing The Right Thing (TM). There's no need for us to rehash the standard arguments for/against bothering with CVEs at all. The point is that CVE notifications are useful for some of us and it _seems_ (obviously I can't know) that they're intentionally not published at the same time as release notes, often a week or more later. I, and John, are just saying that if possible, it'd be a big help for them to do so. Best, sam Download attachment "signature.asc" of type "application/pgp-signature" (619 bytes)
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