Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2013 09:20:49 +0800 From: Greg KH <greg@...ah.com> To: oss-security@...ts.openwall.com Subject: Re: handling of Linux kernel vulnerabilities (was: CVE request - Linux kernel: VFAT slab-based buffer overflow) On Mon, Mar 04, 2013 at 10:12:56PM +0100, Eric Lacombe wrote: > Hi, > > Le lundi 4 mars 2013 11:48:58, Greg KH a écrit : > > On Sun, Mar 03, 2013 at 10:39:30PM -0500, Michael Gilbert wrote: > > > I was getting encouraged by the recent anger-centric posts, the "what > > > is it that we're supposed to do better?" ones. That gave me some > > > encouragement that there was the possibility of positive change, but > > > the "we're not going to make users more unsafe by telling them about > > > issues affecting them" is a persistence of the denial state. That > > > logic completely violates the known idiom that knowledge is power: > > > give users the knowledge that they need to protect themselves, and > > > they will; starve them of that knowledge, and they remain vulnerable. > > > > That's a load of crap. > > > > Seriously, you know it only benefits the "bad guys" if I were to say, > > "This patch just went into Linus's tree that fixes a security problem > > that you can exploit in this manner". No user would have a chance to > > fix their systems before the vulnerability was added to the > > "ultra-sploit" tool and everyone would have their systems trashed. > > I think there's a difference between disclosing the vulnerability and > disclosing it with a related exploit. The first one allows to fulfill what > Michael Gilbert explains without the consequences that you focus on. You really think there is a difference? I assert that there is none, and history has shown that this is the case, but feel free to prove me wrong. > And as Michael Gilbert insisted on, I deeply think that the asymmetry of the > problem should be taken into account for defining the way of dealing with > security flaws. Then why do we even have the linux-distros list at all? greg k-h
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