Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2013 22:12:56 +0100 From: Eric Lacombe <goretux@...il.com> To: oss-security@...ts.openwall.com Subject: Re: handling of Linux kernel vulnerabilities (was: CVE request - Linux kernel: VFAT slab-based buffer overflow) Hi, Le lundi 4 mars 2013 11:48:58, Greg KH a écrit : > On Sun, Mar 03, 2013 at 10:39:30PM -0500, Michael Gilbert wrote: > > I was getting encouraged by the recent anger-centric posts, the "what > > is it that we're supposed to do better?" ones. That gave me some > > encouragement that there was the possibility of positive change, but > > the "we're not going to make users more unsafe by telling them about > > issues affecting them" is a persistence of the denial state. That > > logic completely violates the known idiom that knowledge is power: > > give users the knowledge that they need to protect themselves, and > > they will; starve them of that knowledge, and they remain vulnerable. > > That's a load of crap. > > Seriously, you know it only benefits the "bad guys" if I were to say, > "This patch just went into Linus's tree that fixes a security problem > that you can exploit in this manner". No user would have a chance to > fix their systems before the vulnerability was added to the > "ultra-sploit" tool and everyone would have their systems trashed. I think there's a difference between disclosing the vulnerability and disclosing it with a related exploit. The first one allows to fulfill what Michael Gilbert explains without the consequences that you focus on. And as Michael Gilbert insisted on, I deeply think that the asymmetry of the problem should be taken into account for defining the way of dealing with security flaws. Best regards, Eric Lacombe > > If you so strongly believe this, why is there a linux-distros list in > the first place? > > Come on, be realistic people. > > greg k-h
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