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Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 03:13:50 +0400
From: Solar Designer <>
Subject: Re: non-Linux advance notification list

All -

On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 02:56:22AM +0400, Solar Designer wrote:
> OK, now this is starting to look about as ridiculous as the old "closed
> list" thread did. ;-)  I am approving these messages so far in part
> because I think they serve as (valid) criticism of the idea of such
> lists, even if the senders did not intend such meaning.  I have mixed
> feelings about these advance notification lists myself.

Oh, I think I need to clarify.  By "these messages" above, I mean closed
list membership requests that lack justification.  I can see how my
positive reply to Tim's message might have created the false impression
that no justification was required.  In fact, NetBSD/pkgsrc had previously
expressed interest in being on such a list (during the "closed list"
thread from half a year ago), Tim posted from his @pkgsrc address, and I
verified that he was credited for pkgsrc security work just recently:

"pkgsrc security: OBATA Akio, Guillaume Lasmayous, Fredrik Pettai, Tim

None of these things were true for Joost's and Michael's requests - so I
had no better choice than to ask them for justification.

It'd help avoid any confusion like that if further requests include
justification in a more explicit form, even when the sender can
reasonably expect that I'd recognize their OS and themselves and their
involvement in security work for their OS.  While I did recall past
discussions and notice the @pkgsrc address, not everyone did, which
clearly caused confusion.



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