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Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:36:45 -0500
From: Josh Bressers <>
To:, Solar Designer <>
Subject: Re: subscription-request procedure?

> > Since folks like Jim are exactly the type of people we want on the list,
> > we need to make the process fairly simple (and fast, if possible) to
> > prevent turning people off.
> In fact, I think even something as simple as compulsory introduction
> will turn some people away - e.g., those Open Source authors who are new
> to security and would like to listen to our conversations before they
> might dare to introduce themselves.
> Maybe we don't really require it?  Maybe we don't really need to make
> this list subscription-moderated?  This implies that we'll have to
> enable message moderation (with its associated delays) even for list
> members at some point, though.
> To avoid the delays, we might enhance (patch) ezmlm-idx to honor its
> "allow" list even for fully-message-moderated lists.  This is probably
> not too hard to do, although I have not looked into it.  Normally, the
> "allow" list appears to only be honored for lists that are
> message-moderated for non-members.

Yes, these are very good points.  I think the best solution at the moment
would be to let anyone who is subscribed to post, and let anyone subscribe.
If we have problems, we can tighten things up a bit later.

This is one of the tricking things when starting something up such as this.
It's easy to solve problems that don't exist, which then end up turning
people away.

FWIW, mailman has the ability to enable individual user moderation.
Something similar would certainly be a useful feature here.


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