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Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2022 19:04:10 -0400
From: Kenny MacDermid <>
Subject: Re: lookup_name issue with search domains

On Sun, Dec 04, 2022 at 10:31:33AM -0500, Rich Felker wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 04, 2022 at 06:45:59AM +0100, Markus Wichmann wrote:
> > On Sun, Dec 04, 2022 at 12:02:54AM -0400, Kenny MacDermid wrote:
> > > The issue arises when it queries my cloudflare hosted domain
> > > (which also uses dnssec). That query does not have the reply code
> > > flags set to 3.  Instead it's set to 0. This results in
> > > name_from_dns() returning EAI_NODATA.
> > 
> > I think we had that report before. The problem is that cloudflare is
> > wrong here. DNS response with empty data section and NOERROR status
> > means the domain name exists, but has no records of the requested
> > type.  If cloudflare is reporting that for a name where that isn't
> > true, they are making a mistake.
> > 
> > This is a cloudflare-specific break with the DNS standards (don't
> > ask me which, though), so we probably won't change musl to deal with
> > this.  Simplest solution for the known-bad actor is to write a proxy
> > server that turns the wrong answers into correct ones.
> It's not that we just won't accommodate what Cloudflare is doing, but
> that Cloudflare is returning data that *means something different* and
> for which the only correct behavior (that wouldn't break consistency
> for other results where the provider is using DNS semantics correctly)
> is what we're doing.

Well, I guess the “It’s always DNS” meme strikes again.

Do you happen to have a reference to the RFC that Cloudflare isn't
following by returning what they do? The blog post I found on the
topic /claims/ they're compliant[1].

Either way it's unfortunate that musl handles this differently than
others like glibc, the BSD libc, and Go.


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