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Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2022 16:33:21 +0100
From: Shiz <>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] memmem.3: Added list of known systems where this
 is available

Hi there,

> On 23 Nov Reiwa 4, at 14:16, Alejandro Colomar <> wrote:
>>>> -  Android is not a real Unix system, in that you can't even program in C in
>>>> there, unless you're Google or have hacked your system.  It's not friendly
>>>> to us programmers, so we don't need to be friendly to it.  I don't want to
>>>> be cluttering the pages with information that is irrelevant to normal users.
>>> I'm assuming bionic is being used in some of the Android free
>>> alternatives too, but then I'm not sure how usable for programming those
>>> are either. And, well musl libc is not a real Unix system you can program
>>> against either. :)
> The difference is only that bionic is not in use in useful systems (AFAIK).  :)
> So we have to do some decission here (and also about newlib, as reported by Brian).

I’d like to chime in here and note that, valuations of usefulness aside, it *is*
possible to develop in C against an Android device, without needing any hacks,
using the NDK[1]. As someone who has occasionally worked on big codebases written
in C and C++ for Android devices, I would argue there’s value to be had there. :-)

> Cheers,
> Alex

- Shiz


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