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Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2020 12:51:56 +1000
From: Michael Ellerman <>
To: Rich Felker <>, Nicholas Piggin <>
Cc:, Andy Lutomirski <>,,, Adhemerval Zanella <>,, Thomas Gleixner <>, Vincenzo Frascino <>,
Subject: Re: Re: New powerpc vdso calling convention

Rich Felker <> writes:
> On Sat, Apr 25, 2020 at 08:56:54PM +1000, Nicholas Piggin wrote:
>> >> The ELF v2 ABI convention would suit it well, because the caller already
>> >> requires the function address for ctr, so having it in r12 will
>> >> eliminate the need for address calculation, which suits the vdso data
>> >> page access.
>> >> 
>> >> Is there a need for ELF v1 specific calls as well, or could those just be
>> >> deprecated and remain on existing functions or required to use the ELF
>> >> v2 calls using asm wrappers?
>> > 
>> > What's ELF v1 and ELF v2 ? Is ELF v1 what PPC32 uses ? If so, I'd say 
>> > yes, it would be good to have it to avoid going through ASM in the middle..
>> I'm not sure about PPC32. On PPC64, ELFv2 functions must be called with 
>> their address in r12 if called at their global entry point. ELFv1 have a 
>> function descriptor with call address and TOC in it, caller has to load 
>> the TOC if it's global.
>> The vdso doesn't have TOC, it has one global address (the vdso data 
>> page) which it loads by calculating its own address.
> A function descriptor could be put in the VDSO data page, or as it's
> done now by glibc the vdso linkage code could create it. My leaning is
> to at least have a version of the code that's callable (with the right
> descriptor around it) by v1 binaries, but since musl does not use
> ELFv1 at all we really have no stake in this and I'm fine with
> whatever outcome users of v1 decide on.
>> The kernel doesn't change the vdso based on whether it's called by a v1 
>> or v2 userspace (it doesn't really know itself and would have to export 
>> different functions). glibc has a hack to create something:
> I'm pretty sure it does know because signal invocation has to know
> whether the function pointer points to a descriptor or code. At least
> for FDPIC archs (similar to PPC64 ELFv1 function descriptors) it knows
> and has to know.

It does know, see TIF_ELF2ABI which is tested by is_elf2_task(), and as
you say is used by the signal delivery code.

Currently the VDSO entry points are not functions, so they don't need to
change based on the ABI.


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