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Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2018 22:50:26 -0500
From: "A. Wilcox" <>
Subject: Re: Replacing a_crash() ?

On 09/16/18 22:23, Rich Felker wrote:
> Now that we have an abort() that reliably terminates with uncatchable
> SIGABRT, I've been thinking about replacing the a_crash() calls in
> musl (which are usually an instruction generating SIGILL or SIGSEGV)
> with calls to the uncatchable tail of abort(), which I would factor
> off as a __forced_abort() function.
> In case it's not clear, the reason for not just calling abort() is
> that too many programs catch it, and catching it is even encouraged.
> Catchability is a problem with the current approach too, since
> a_crash() is used in places where process state is known to be
> dangerously corrupt and likely under attacker control; eliminating it
> is one of the potential goals of switching to __forced_abort().

Yes, please!

> Are there any objections to making such a change? So far I've gotten
> mostly positive feedback -- SIGABRT is more telling of what's happened
> than SIGSEGV/SIGILL. It would also get rid of the ugly misplacement of
> a_crash() (no longer needed) in "atomic.h" and the inclusion of
> "atomic.h" in some files where it makes no sense without knowing it's
> where a_crash() is defined.
> For i386, some nontrivial work would be needed to make abort's tail
> perform syscalls with int $128 rather than the vdso, which is unsafe
> since the pointer to it may have been subverted. On other archs,
> inline syscalls are fully inline. I'd probably add a
> NEED_FAILSAFE_SYSCALL macro to define before including "syscall.h" and
> have arch/i386/syscall_arch.h adjust the asm string based on it; this
> is more maintainable than writing an asm version of the function.

That seems like a sane way to do it.


A. Wilcox (awilfox)
Project Lead, Adélie Linux

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