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Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2018 13:19:05 -0500
From: "A. Wilcox" <>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] _start_c does more work than is necessary

On 08/25/18 20:23, Rich Felker wrote:
> the gcc crtbegin/crtend mess is
> just for wacky language runtimes like java (gcj, obsolete and removed
> from gcc). I'm not sure if there are other compilers out there that
> still don't know how to do the arrays, though (pcc? firm/cparser?).

That wacky language runtime is still needed to bootstrap Java compilers
without relying on binaries.  This is especially important for musl
(because except for Oracle's semi-proprietary portola, there is no
binary for musl at all) and for other architectures (OpenJDK is, as far
as I'm aware, not a cross-compiler, so arches like mips or ppc64 would
be screwed).


A. Wilcox (awilfox)
Project Lead, Adélie Linux

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