Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2017 16:59:49 -0600 From: "A. Wilcox" <awilfox@...lielinux.org> To: musl@...ts.openwall.com Subject: Re: musl new-year's infrastructure resolutions -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 02/01/17 14:06, Kurt H Maier wrote: > On Mon, Jan 02, 2017 at 02:16:24PM -0500, Rich Felker wrote: >> Mantis doesn't seem so bad as a user but I have no idea how bad >> it is under the hood. Redmine looks kinda nice and Alpine uses >> it. > > Redmine is a very typical Ruby on Rails application. It works as > advertised but requires familiarity with that ecosystem to install > and operate. Mantis is a php application with all of the typical > travails of php. That's a very diplomatic assessment of Rails. I administer multiple Rails applications - GitLab, a custom CMS, one of the eCommerce packages, and a full Web application that was developed in house. I cannot believe how much of a resource drain they are, even having gone through the pain of optimising the entire stack. I think the smallest RAM footprint I've ever seen out of Rails is 450 MB resident. This isn't even a Ruby problem; I have seen Sinatra using under 50 MB. For a large Redmine install with a lot of users and some concurrency (i.e. multiple people doing /something/ at the same time), I wouldn't use a box with less than 2 GB RAM and dual-core. And that's pushing it. Look, I used to *be* a Rails developer. I like the rapid prototyping that it allows and I even *still* use it for that. But it isn't something I would ever choose to run in production. - --arw - -- A. Wilcox (awilfox) Project Lead, Adélie Linux http://adelielinux.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJYattiAAoJEMspy1GSK50UIMIP/RKQN5hiA+cigy7eZwMY3YEx +eps9jp0uBSR4LuHRtKf06HhTgsfwTuy+/NRE2rdykSU2lXhh+QoedsclQ1Ga1Zr /gXGDMBjPvhkH8QDzxO0Um8DuIm/sDuz2ByysxFBX6k4/Hhqc+esodM+j6adyY1g Zsx8lJWXW1DXu2J1/Tp/uAKUpdRY6Xdygq76z9zfzgH6uJ3ia0pb7lcYn+Sgzsdb rnAf1jr/BqrDrSsEKbcNSB2SLW26k868GhsY7bKAF3FY2q4CAHatnc2bfM/qBWz8 8IOGjzUqk3mI+6JJgFq+uIbeXrc0Jpa+J7igEwOEYaHmNgjfaCciWt558/XjfnmM ndu8KkO5TaRz584olVpWbzkF0+YgDsygIOJx19GS7I5Okg/B9Xs5t/7+rTetshs/ qZvU8P+wiIeTi69c75ByrnZRwICoX1KL6I9dAfOJtjPT51Xb29X8MXmN48moZBYG 5oXxaaafqU9D7nRAArzgphZarJR7eVSfA7MbH49539kR4+wHJIXvC2cYd5IgfiSt Wm9T/D1OkO0MaXco0YXRfM6bVJh4uWU89FggPj2yqWStL/GNH5fxDUp8ntzvdy7w aw58+ObcSOJpVgpm/pfRJJGk2Jrz+SmoTC6PFEIM3KFu3Ak1wNehoDllsEIfrTA/ /1J2PsOAxZq05VidsD5E =98Mf -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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