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Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 08:28:44 -0700
From: "H. Peter Anvin" <>
To: Arnd Bergmann <>,
        Rich Felker <>,,,
        "Joseph S. Myers" <>
Subject: Re: [klibc] kernel/libc uapi changes for y2038

On 05/18/2015 02:53 AM, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> In the patch series I posted recently [1], I introduce new system calls to deal
> with modified data structures, but left the question open on how these should
> be best accessed from libc. The patches introduce a new __kernel_time64_t type
> and based on that five new data structured: struct __kernel_timespec,
> struct __kernel_itimerspec, struct __kernel_stat, struct __kernel_rusage,
> and struct __kernel_timex. This works fine for the case when all libc
> implementations provide their own definitions to user space, but not for
> the simplest case (e.g. klibc) where the user-visible structures come directly
> from the kernel uapi headers.
> I still don't know what model the various libc developers prefer, so here is
> an alternative approach, as a patch on top of the previous series:
> Now, we rename the original structures to struct __old_kernel_*, and use a
> macro to define either the __old_kernel_* or the __kernel_* structure name
> to the name we actually want in user space, based on a __KERNEL_TIME_BITS
> macro that can be set to either 32 or 64 for 32-bit architectures by
> the libc. Depending on that macro, the compiler will either see one
> of these combinations (for each of the five structures):
> a) __BITS_PER_LONG == 32 && __KERNEL_TIME_BITS == 32:
>    struct timespec              based on 32-bit __kernel_time_t
>    struct __kernel_timespec     based on 64-bit __kernel_time64_t
> b) __BITS_PER_LONG == 64 && __KERNEL_TIME_BITS == 64:
>    struct timespec              based on 64-bit __kernel_time_t
>    struct __kernel_timespec     based on 64-bit __kernel_time64_t
> c) __BITS_PER_LONG == 32 && __KERNEL_TIME_BITS == 64:
>    struct __old_kernel_timespec based on 32-bit __kernel_time_t
>    struct timespec              based on 64-bit __kernel_time64_t
> Would this work for everyone?  Any alternative suggestions?

It seems to work, except I don't really understand why there is a
difference between (b) and (c).

I also have no problem just having klibc contain its own definitions of
these structures, as long as one can prevent the kernel from defining them.


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