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Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2014 08:12:52 +0100
From: Natanael Copa <>
To: Szabolcs Nagy <>
Subject: Re: Call for ideas for future musl-related talks

On Mon, 29 Dec 2014 01:29:30 +0100
Szabolcs Nagy <> wrote:

> * Justin Cormack <> [2014-12-28 16:24:43 +0000]:
> > On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 5:04 AM, Rich Felker <> wrote:

> > > If there's anything special you'd like to hear me give a talk on,
> > > or think would be constructive to the project, reply and let me
> > > know.
> my whishlist is
> - why do posix and c matter in the age of web/mobile/cloud


This could maybe include a few words on why standards in general matter
at all. (for example even the big company that gave us Internet
Explorer 6 realizes that it hurts themselves to not follow html
standard in the long run.)

I think this is a topic that people need to hear. Why standards are
good and why its a bad idea to let one implementation rule them all and
be the "standard" that all other implementations should mimic.

Imagine if all browsers should follow the IE 6 implementation of
html/css. At that time it maybe looked like a good idea to use all the
extra features to have your product compete with those who aimed for
"lowest common denominator" feature set - but today most people that
depends on a browser realize that was a bad idea in the long run.

> - good/bad/ugly parts of posix/linux/toolchain from libc pov
> - metrics (benchmarks, size, complexity, amount of libc code
> executed in various use-cases, time spent in libc, etc)

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