Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2013 11:03:23 -0400 From: Rich Felker <dalias@...ifal.cx> To: musl@...ts.openwall.com Subject: Re: GLOB_BRACE On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 04:35:25PM +0200, Luca Barbato wrote: > On 23/09/13 16:08, Rob Landley wrote: > > systemd is the second coming of devfsd. A lot of us are waiting for it > > to blow over. > > Given the economic and PR support it won't blow over easily if > alternatives on par on the PR side won't appear. > > Keep in mind that pigs can fly just nicely if propelled adequately. The > landing could be problematic though. The problem is that, for the audience it's designed for, systemd is a big step up. Previously they were using hideous bash scripts full of pidfile races for starting and stopping services, etc. For us, things are easy. systemd is not meeting a need or doing anything better than the much simpler, more reliable tools we already have. But unfortunately there's a risk of it getting imposed on people who don't need it, and drastically blocking hopes to make the core system robust, because it's hard to do better than systemd in its own area, and there are commercially-relevant groups who care about that area. And of course you have the issue that it's absorbing other critical components like udev that everybody needs and making it impossible to use them without systemd. Rich
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