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Message-ID: <522D5235.4090403@barfooze.de>
Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2013 06:44:37 +0200
From: John Spencer <maillist-musl@...fooze.de>
To: mtk.manpages@...il.com
CC: John Spencer <maillist-musl@...fooze.de>, musl@...ts.openwall.com,
Isaac <idunham@...abit.com>,
Rob Landley <rob@...dley.net>, Felix Janda <felix.janda@...teo.de>
Subject: Re: Re: status of POSIX man pages?
On 09/08/2013 08:05 AM, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 2:23 PM, John Spencer<maillist-musl@...fooze.de> wrote:
>> On 07/26/2013 09:20 PM, Isaac wrote:
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 02, 2013 at 03:08:52AM +0200, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> As of a few days ago, the necessary permissions are granted. I do not
>>>> yet have the source files (and so am unsure of the source format), but
>>>> I expect that they will become available to us in the next couple of
>>>> weeks.
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm curious what the status of this is. Do you have the sources yet?
>>>
>>
>> i am very interested in a status update as well.
>> getting the posix 2008 manpages into my distro is a todo item since a long
>> time
>> https://github.com/rofl0r/sabotage/issues/34
>
> A while back we got permission from the IEEE and The Open Group to use
> the POSIX.1-2013 pages (==POSIX.1-2008 + Technical Corrigendum 1,
> published 2013).
>
> However, the source text that has been provided to us needs massaging
> in a number of ways before it can be published as a set of standalone
> pages. Felix Janda kindly offered to take on that task, and has been
> making very good progress. I expect that in a week or two, we'll have
> a set of pages for public review (to see if there are any remaining
> bugs in the "massaging process" that Felix or I did not spot).
>
that's very good news.
btw, i am currently writing (or improving) a non-bloated man
implementation: https://raw.github.com/rofl0r/hardcore-utils/master/man.c .
in the process i noted that the posix manpages from 2003 make use of
some groff features like the tbl preprocessor (a hideous hack to display
html-like tables in a completely unidiomatic way), for example in man 1p
printf.
those features are not supported by any traditional *roff
implementation, so i wonder if the next iteration of the posix manpages
could stick to the basic nroff function set to improve compatibility...
regards,
--JS
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