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Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 20:46:27 -0500
From: Alex Caudill <>
Subject: Re: termios ugliness

FWIW, +1 for using the kernel structure.

On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 1:59 PM, Rich Felker <> wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 05:34:49PM +0100, John Spencer wrote:
>> On 11/16/2012 04:52 AM, Rich Felker wrote:
>> >Since it's a decision we can't really change later without breaking
>> >ABI, though, I'd like to ask the community: does anybody have a strong
>> >feeling about whether we should use the kernel termios structure
>> >directly or do like glibc and use an arch-generic userspace termios
>> >structure and code to convert to/from the kernel version?
>> i think that it's not worthwile to support glibc abi compatibility
>> on that platform, if that means that we have to bloat the code
>> and/or use hacks to achieve it.
>> +1 for the straight approach.
> Note that even the GNU folks did not care about ABI compatibility on
> ppc. They changed long double from ld64 to ld128 and broke everything.
> Since we're going to be using the ld64 variant anyway which is already
> incompatible with current glibc, I see little point in aiming for
> glibc compat on ppc.
> Rich

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