Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 20:21:40 -0400 From: Rich Felker <dalias@...ifal.cx> To: musl@...ts.openwall.com Subject: Re: Wiki for musl? On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 07:09:47PM -0400, Kurt H Maier wrote: > On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 04:00:06PM -0400, Rich Felker wrote: > > > > I was thinking more along the lines of AJAX for realtime update of the > > preview alongside the text (ala Stack Overflow), submission without > > reloading the whole page, etc. Not just visual presentation of the > > page. > > There are such things possible with ikiwiki. If your interested in > current status, you can glance over the discussions on ikiwiki.info, > such as http://ikiwiki.info/todo/mdwn_preview/ > > The specific feature you're talking about on stack overflow hsa been > cloned a bunch of times in general-use libraries. For an example of I assume you're talking about the live preview. What about submitting changes without reloading the page? To me that makes a big difference in the usability impression - avoiding the discontinuity of the screen disappearing for a second, the scrollbar getting reset, etc. > that, see http://code.google.com/p/pagedown/source/browse/ -- which can > be shoved into just about any wiki program. (incidentally, ikiwiki uses > markdown by default, but any (or multiple) markup compilers can be used. > the traditional 'easy' setup involves a post-commit hook on the server > that triggers a recompile of the wiki whenever someone checks in the > source.) Nice, so it's all static aside from edits? > The default ikiwiki theme and css is very sparse, but there are quite a > few drop-in replacements for them that look fancy and ajaxy. It's not that I want things to "look ajaxy". I don't mind if they look like the first websites from the early 90s with no styling, default fonts, no custom buttons, etc., but I do like having a responsive interface without discontinuities. For pure static content broken into logical pages, I'm perfectly happy without any ajax, but if the site is something interactive/editable or an "application" of sorts, I don't like it to feel like a second-class citizen in the world of applications. > Please keep in mind that lots of people still don't like using this sort > of thing. For the record, I'm one of them. Graceful fallback to non-AJAX when JS is disabled (or in browsers that don't support JS) is of course a requirement for an accessible site. Rich
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