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Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 09:34:52 +0200
From: John Spencer <maillist-musl@...fooze.de>
To: musl@...ts.openwall.com
CC: Luca Barbato <lu_zero@...too.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] makefile: add silent rules

On 06/13/2012 07:22 AM, Luca Barbato wrote:
> make V=1 to disable them

are you blind or just stubborn ?
you already got your NO last time.

On 06/07/2012 10:13 AM, Luca Barbato wrote:
> make V=1 to disable them

On 06/07/2012 03:12 PM, Igmar Palsenberg wrote:
>
>> make V=1 to disable them
> <snip>
>
> This was NACK'ed a month ago. I'm with the NACK crew, I hardly find this useful, and I like fast scrolling terminals :)
>
>
>
> 	Igmar
>
>
On 06/07/2012 03:18 PM, Rich Felker wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 07, 2012 at 03:12:48PM +0200, Igmar Palsenberg wrote:
>>
>>> make V=1 to disable them
>> <snip>
>>
>> This was NACK'ed a month ago. I'm with the NACK crew, I hardly find
>> this useful, and I like fast scrolling terminals :)
> I'm not as adamant on it, but I'm also in the group that doesn't like
> this "new style" of makefile output. Most annoyingly, when something
> goes wrong, you have to re-run make with V=1 to see what was actually
> happening. Oftentimes I find I want to rerun a command with -S instead
> of -c (to examine the generated asm) or with different CFLAGS when
> dealing with an unexpected ICE or similar.

On 06/07/2012 03:19 PM, John Spencer wrote:
> On 06/07/2012 10:13 AM, Luca Barbato wrote:
>> make V=1 to disable them
>> ---
>>
> please see the mail georgi sent to the list at 13th may and the 
> followup responses.
>
> maybe 10% of users want a "quiet" build, so why force your preference 
> on anybody ?
>
> if it was the other way around (explicitly enable the "quiet" stuff), 
> i wouldn't be as opposed to this idea.
> but effectively it gains you nothing except "awesome looks" *sigh*, 
> and adds additional bloat to the Makefile. 

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