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Message-ID: <202105051132.7958C3B@keescook>
Date: Wed, 5 May 2021 11:38:39 -0700
From: Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
Cc: Rick Edgecombe <rick.p.edgecombe@...el.com>, dave.hansen@...el.com,
luto@...nel.org, linux-mm@...ck.org, x86@...nel.org,
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linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 0/9] PKS write protected page tables
On Wed, May 05, 2021 at 10:37:29AM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Tue, May 04, 2021 at 11:25:31PM -0700, Kees Cook wrote:
>
> > It looks like PKS-protected page tables would be much like the
> > RO-protected text pages in the sense that there is already code in
> > the kernel to do things to make it writable, change text, and set it
> > read-only again (alternatives, ftrace, etc).
>
> We don't actually modify text by changing the mapping at all. We modify
> through a writable (but not executable) temporary alias on the page (on
> x86).
>
> Once a mapping is RX it will *never* be writable again (until we tear it
> all down).
Yes, quite true. I was trying to answer the concern about "is it okay
that there is a routine in the kernel that can write to page tables
(via temporary disabling of PKS)?" by saying "yes, this is fine -- we
already have similar routines in the kernel that bypass memory
protections, and that's okay because the defense is primarily about
blocking flaws that allow attacker-controlled writes to be used to
leverage greater control over kernel state, of which the page tables are
pretty central. :)
--
Kees Cook
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