Follow @Openwall on Twitter for new release announcements and other news
[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]
Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2020 14:34:06 +0300
From: Topi Miettinen <toiwoton@...il.com>
To: Salvatore Mesoraca <s.mesoraca16@...il.com>
Cc: Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org>, Szabolcs Nagy <szabolcs.nagy@....com>,
 Jeremy Linton <jeremy.linton@....com>,
 "linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org"
 <linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org>, libc-alpha@...rceware.org,
 systemd-devel@...ts.freedesktop.org,
 "linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
 Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@....com>, Mark Brown <broonie@...nel.org>,
 Dave Martin <dave.martin@....com>, Catalin Marinas
 <Catalin.Marinas@....com>, Will Deacon <will.deacon@....com>,
 Kernel Hardening <kernel-hardening@...ts.openwall.com>,
 linux-hardening@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: BTI interaction between seccomp filters in systemd and glibc
 mprotect calls, causing service failures

On 23.10.2020 20.52, Salvatore Mesoraca wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Thu, 22 Oct 2020 at 23:24, Topi Miettinen <toiwoton@...il.com> wrote:
>> SARA looks interesting. What is missing is a prctl() to enable all W^X
>> protections irrevocably for the current process, then systemd could
>> enable it for services with MemoryDenyWriteExecute=yes.
> 
> SARA actually has a procattr[0] interface to do just that.
> There is also a library[1] to help using it.

That means that /proc has to be available and writable at that point, so 
setting up procattrs has to be done before mount namespaces are set up. 
In general, it would be nice for sandboxing facilities in kernel if 
there would be a way to start enforcing restrictions only at next 
execve(), like setexeccon() for SELinux and aa_change_onexec() for 
AppArmor. Otherwise the exact order of setting up various sandboxing 
options can be very tricky to arrange correctly, since each option may 
have a subtle effect to the sandboxing features enabled later. In case 
of SARA, the operations done between shuffling the mount namespace and 
before execve() shouldn't be affected so it isn't important. Even if it 
did (a new sandboxing feature in the future would need trampolines or 
JIT code generation), maybe the procattr file could be opened early but 
it could be written closer to execve().

-Topi

Powered by blists - more mailing lists

Confused about mailing lists and their use? Read about mailing lists on Wikipedia and check out these guidelines on proper formatting of your messages.