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Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2019 09:40:41 +0200
From: Stephen Kitt <steve@....org>
To: Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org>
Cc: Nitin Gote <nitin.r.gote@...el.com>, jannh@...gle.com,
 kernel-hardening@...ts.openwall.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] checkpatch: Added warnings in favor of strscpy().

On Sat, 6 Jul 2019 14:42:04 +0200, Stephen Kitt <steve@....org> wrote:
> On Tue, 2 Jul 2019 10:25:04 -0700, Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org> wrote:
> > On Sat, Jun 29, 2019 at 06:15:37PM +0200, Stephen Kitt wrote:  
> > > On Fri, 28 Jun 2019 17:25:48 +0530, Nitin Gote <nitin.r.gote@...el.com>
> > > wrote:    
> > > > 1. Deprecate strcpy() in favor of strscpy().    
> > > 
> > > This isn’t a comment “against” this patch, but something I’ve been
> > > wondering recently and which raises a question about how to handle
> > > strcpy’s deprecation in particular. There is still one scenario where
> > > strcpy is useful: when GCC replaces it with its builtin, inline
> > > version...
> > > 
> > > Would it be worth introducing a macro for strcpy-from-constant-string,
> > > which would check that GCC’s builtin is being used (when building with
> > > GCC), and fall back to strscpy otherwise?    
> > 
> > How would you suggest it operate? A separate API, or something like the
> > existing overloaded strcpy() macros in string.h?  
> 
> The latter; in my mind the point is to simplify the thought process for
> developers, so strscpy should be the “obvious” choice in all cases, even
> when dealing with constant strings in hot paths. Something like
> 
> __FORTIFY_INLINE ssize_t strscpy(char *dest, const char *src, size_t count)
> {
> 	size_t dest_size = __builtin_object_size(dest, 0);
> 	size_t src_size = __builtin_object_size(src, 0);
> 	if (__builtin_constant_p(count) &&
> 	    __builtin_constant_p(src_size) &&
> 	    __builtin_constant_p(dest_size) &&
> 	    src_size <= count &&
> 	    src_size <= dest_size &&
> 	    src[src_size - 1] == '\0') {
> 		strcpy(dest, src);
> 		return src_size - 1;
> 	} else {
> 		return __strscpy(dest, src, count);
> 	}
> }
> 
> with the current strscpy renamed to __strscpy. I imagine it’s not necessary
> to tie this to FORTIFY — __OPTIMIZE__ should be sufficient, shouldn’t it?
> Although building on top of the fortified strcpy is reassuring, and I might
> be missing something. I’m also not sure how to deal with the backing
> strscpy: weak symbol, or something else... At least there aren’t (yet) any
> arch-specific implementations of strscpy to deal with, but obviously they’d
> still need to be supportable.

And there are at least two baked-in assumptions here: src really is a
constant string (so the if should only trigger then), to avoid TOCTTOU races,
and there is only a single null byte at the end of src.

> In my tests, this all gets optimised away, and we end up with code such as
> 
> 	strscpy(raead.type, "aead", sizeof(raead.type));
> 
> being compiled down to
> 
> 	movl    $1684104545, 4(%rsp)
> 
> on x86-64, and non-constant code being compiled down to a direct __strscpy
> call.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Stephen

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