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Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2019 13:28:53 -0400
From: Wes Turner <wes.turner@...il.com>
To: Jonathan Corbet <corbet@....net>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 56/79] docs: Documentation/*.txt: rename all ReST files
 to *.rst

- Accessible, usable docs are worth something in ROI
  - https://www.writethedocs.org/
  - https://read-the-docs.readthedocs.io/en/latest/
  -
https://github.com/rtfd/readthedocs-docker-images/issues/47#issuecomment-485712800
    - Dockerfile that extends from readthedocs/build:latest (which has the
GBs of latex necessary to run `make latexpdf` for all you PDF lovers out
there)

- https://github.com/yoloseem/awesome-sphinxdoc
  - There are various Sphinx extensions for optionally including generated
API docs for various languages
  - If you add the extensions you want installed to your requirements.txt
or environment.yml, ReadTheDocs will install those for every build. You can
also create (and maintain) a custom Docker image with all of the docs
building dependencies installed (e.g. requirements_dev.txt and/or
docs/requirements.txt)

- https://kernel.readthedocs.io/en/latest/kernel-documentation.html
  - This says "Copyright 2016"? That's set in conf.py

I keep a tools doc in ReST:
- https://westurner.github.io/tools/#sphinx
- https://westurner.github.io/tools/#docutils

I'll just CC those sections here
wrapped in a Markdown fenced code block

```rst

.. index:: Docutils
.. _docutils:

Docutils
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
| Homepage: http://docutils.sourceforge.net
| PyPI: https://pypi.python.org/pypi/docutils
| Docs: http://docutils.sourceforge.net/docs/
| Docs: http://docutils.sourceforge.net/rst.html
| Docs: http://docutils.sourceforge.net/docs/ref/doctree.html
| Docs: https://docutils.readthedocs.io/en/sphinx-docs/
| Docs:
https://docutils.readthedocs.io/en/sphinx-docs/ref/rst/restructuredtext.html
| Src: svn http://svn.code.sf.net/p/docutils/code/trunk

Docutils is a :ref:`Python` library which 'parses" :ref:`ReStructuredText`
lightweight markup language into a doctree (~DOM)
which can be serialized into
HTML, ePub, MOBI, LaTeX, man pages,
Open Document files,
XML, JSON, and a number of other formats.


.. index:: Sphinx
.. _sphinx:

Sphinx
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
| Wikipedia: `<
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sphinx_(documentation_generator)>`_
| Homepage: https://pypi.python.org/pypi/Sphinx
| Src: git https://github.com/sphinx-doc/sphinx
| Pypi: https://pypi.python.org/pypi/Sphinx
| Docs: http://sphinx-doc.org/contents.html
| Docs: http://sphinx-doc.org/markup/code.html
| Docs: http://www.sphinx-doc.org/en/stable/markup/inline.html#ref-role
| Docs: http://pygments.org/docs/lexers/
| Docs: http://thomas-cokelaer.info/tutorials/sphinx/rest_syntax.html
| Docs: https://github.com/yoloseem/awesome-sphinxdoc

Sphinx is a tool for working with
:ref:`ReStructuredText` documentation trees
and rendering them into HTML, PDF, LaTeX, ePub,
and a number of other formats.

[...]

```

FWIW, ReadTheDocs can host multiple versions of the docs according to the
repo
tags you specify in the web admin.
There may be a way to use the RTD JS UI for selecting versions
with the docs hosted on your own server?
Such as https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/

- https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/master/Documentation/conf.py
- https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/master/Documentation/Makefile

-
https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/master/Documentation/doc-guide/index.rst
-
https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/master/Documentation/doc-guide/sphinx.rst
-
https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/master/Documentation/doc-guide/kernel-doc.rst

- https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/
- https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/doc-guide/
-
https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/doc-guide/sphinx.html#sphinx-install
-
https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/doc-guide/kernel-doc.html#writing-kernel-doc-comments


On Tue, Apr 23, 2019 at 12:31 PM Jonathan Corbet <corbet@....net> wrote:

> On Tue, 23 Apr 2019 15:01:32 +0200
> Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org> wrote:
>
> > But yes, I have 0 motivation to learn or abide by rst. It simply doesn't
> > give me anything in return. There is no upside, only worse text files :/
>
> So I believe it gives even you one thing in return: documentation that is
> more accessible for both readers and authors.  More readable docs should
> lead to more educated developers who understand the code better.  More
> writable docs will bring more people in to help to improve them.  The
> former effect has been reported in the GPU community, where they say that
> the quality of submissions has improved along with the docs.  The latter
> can be observed in the increased number of people working on the docs
> overall, something that Linus noted in the 5.1-rc1 announcement.
>
> Hopefully that's worth something :)
>
> Thanks,
>
> jon
>

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