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Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2018 18:23:09 +0100
From: Solar Designer <solar@...nwall.com>
To: Igor Stoppa <igor.stoppa@...il.com>
Cc: "Stecklina, Julian" <jsteckli@...zon.de>,
	"tycho@...ho.ws" <tycho@...ho.ws>,
	"liran.alon@...cle.com" <liran.alon@...cle.com>,
	"jwadams@...gle.com" <jwadams@...gle.com>,
	"kernel-hardening@...ts.openwall.com" <kernel-hardening@...ts.openwall.com>,
	"dwmw2@...radead.org" <dwmw2@...radead.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/6] Process-local memory allocations

On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 06:04:01PM +0100, Solar Designer wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 06:24:08PM +0200, Igor Stoppa wrote:
> > On 22/11/2018 18:40, Stecklina, Julian wrote:
> > >On Wed, 2018-11-21 at 10:48 -0700, Tycho Andersen wrote:
> > >>>Where is the full set of patches?
> > >>>I'm sorry, I searched both KVM and LKML archives, but I couldn't find it.
> > >>
> > >>It looks like they were only sent to kernel hardening, but not sent to
> > >>the archives? I only see our replies here:
> > >>
> > >>https://www.openwall.com/lists/kernel-hardening/
> > >>
> > >>Julian, perhaps you can re-send with a CC to lkml as well?
> > >
> > >Will do. I messed up the threading, due to git send-email being hostile to 
> > >me.
> > >Sorry for the confusion.
> > 
> > If you are not subscribed to the hardening ml, it will neither archive, 
> > nor forward to subscribers your emails.
> 
> No.  There's no requirement to be subscribed to kernel-hardening in
> order to be able to post, nor for messages to be archived.
> 
> > This very mail you wrote is not archived either.
> 
> Julian's message in fact did not appear on kernel-hardening, and the
> reason is that Amazon's mail servers - for reasons unknown to me (and to
> an Amazoner with whom I tried discussing it before) sometimes(?!) add
> the "Precedence: junk" header on messages.  ezmlm-idx drops such
> messages by default (and this behavior is documented).  I'm not eager to
> patch this out.  ezmlm-idx also drops messages with "Precedence: bulk",
> and it sets that header on messages it sends to list subscribers, which
> helps against loops.  Another reason is to avoid vacation auto-replies,
> which I think can use either header.  It'd be weird to continue dropping
> "bulk", yet start accepting "junk", wouldn't it?  But if this is
> unfixable on Amazon's end, I'll have to.

OK, I've just patched the "junk" check out of ezmlm-reject (processing
of messages to the posting addresses), but kept it in ezmlm-weed
(processing of messages to the bounce addresses).  I hope Julian's
messages will be getting through now.

Alexander

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