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Date: Fri, 11 May 2018 18:50:09 +0300
From: Alexander Popov <>
To: Mark Rutland <>, Andy Lutomirski <>,
 Laura Abbott <>, Kees Cook <>,
 Ard Biesheuvel <>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] arm64: Clear the stack

Hello everyone,

On 06.05.2018 11:22, Alexander Popov wrote:
> On 04.05.2018 14:09, Mark Rutland wrote:
>>>>> +	stack_left = sp & (THREAD_SIZE - 1);
>>>>> +	BUG_ON(stack_left < 256 || size >= stack_left - 256);
>>>> Is this arbitrary, or is there something special about 256?
>>>> Even if this is arbitrary, can we give it some mnemonic?
>>> It's just a reasonable number. We can introduce a macro for it.
>> I'm just not sure I see the point in the offset, given things like
>> VMAP_STACK exist. BUG_ON() handling will likely require *more* than 256
>> bytes of stack, so it seems superfluous, as we'd be relying on stack
>> overflow detection at that point.
>> I can see that we should take the CONFIG_SCHED_STACK_END_CHECK offset
>> into account, though.
> Mark, thank you for such an important remark!
> In Kconfig STACKLEAK implies but doesn't depend on VMAP_STACK. In fact x86_32
> doesn't have VMAP_STACK at all but can have STACKLEAK.
> [Adding Andy Lutomirski]
> I've made some additional experiments: I exhaust the thread stack to have only
> (MIN_STACK_LEFT - 1) bytes left and then force alloca. If VMAP_STACK is
> disabled, BUG_ON() handling causes stack depth overflow, which is detected by
> SCHED_STACK_END_CHECK. If VMAP_STACK is enabled, the kernel hangs on BUG_ON()
> handling! Enabling CONFIG_PROVE_LOCKING gives the needed report from VMAP_STACK:


> I can't say why VMAP_STACK report hangs during BUG_ON() handling on defconfig.
> Andy, can you give a clue?
> I see that MIN_STACK_LEFT = 2048 is enough for BUG_ON() handling on both x86_64
> and x86_32. So I'm going to:
>  - set MIN_STACK_LEFT to 2048;
>  - improve the lkdtm test to cover this case.
> Mark, Kees, Laura, does it sound good?

Could you have a look at the following changes in check_alloca() before I send
the next version?

If VMAP_STACK is enabled and alloca causes stack depth overflow, I write to
guard page below the thread stack to cause double fault and VMAP_STACK report.

If VMAP_STACK is disabled, I use MIN_STACK_LEFT = 2048, which seems to be enough
for BUG_ON() handling both on x86_32 and x86_64. Unfortunately, I can't
guarantee that it is always enough.

-#define MIN_STACK_LEFT 256
+#define MIN_STACK_LEFT 2048

 void __used check_alloca(unsigned long size)
        unsigned long sp = (unsigned long)&sp;
        struct stack_info stack_info = {0};
        unsigned long visit_mask = 0;
        unsigned long stack_left;

        BUG_ON(get_stack_info(&sp, current, &stack_info, &visit_mask));

        stack_left = sp - (unsigned long)stack_info.begin;
+       /*
+        * If alloca oversteps the thread stack boundary, we touch the guard
+        * page provided by VMAP_STACK to trigger handle_stack_overflow().
+        */
+       if (size >= stack_left)
+               *(stack_info.begin - 1) = 42;
        BUG_ON(stack_left < MIN_STACK_LEFT ||
                                size >= stack_left - MIN_STACK_LEFT);

Looking forward to your feedback.

Best regards,

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