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Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2018 16:55:12 -0700
From: Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>, 
	Segher Boessenkool <segher@...nel.crashing.org>, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>, 
	Kernel Hardening <kernel-hardening@...ts.openwall.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] rslib: Remove VLAs by setting upper bound on nroots

On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 4:45 PM, Andrew Morton
<akpm@...ux-foundation.org> wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Mar 2018 16:17:57 -0700 Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 11:25 PM, Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org> wrote:
>> > On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 3:59 PM, Andrew Morton
>> > <akpm@...ux-foundation.org> wrote:
>> >> On Thu, 15 Mar 2018 15:59:19 -0700 Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Avoid stack VLAs[1] by always allocating the upper bound of stack space
>> >>> needed. The existing users of rslib appear to max out at 24 roots[2],
>> >>> so use that as the upper bound until we have a reason to change it.
>> >>>
>> >>> Alternative considered: make init_rs() a true caller-instance and
>> >>> pre-allocate the workspaces. This would possibly need locking and
>> >>> a refactoring of the returned structure.
>> >>>
>> >>> Using kmalloc in this path doesn't look great, especially since at
>> >>> least one caller (pstore) is sensitive to allocations during rslib
>> >>> usage (it expects to run it during an Oops, for example).
>> >>
>> >> Oh.
>> >>
>> >> Could we allocate the storage during init_rs(), attach it to `struct
>> >> rs_control'?
>> >
>> > No, because they're modified during decode, and struct rs_control is
>> > shared between users. :(
>> >
>> > Doing those changes is possible, but it requires a rather extensive
>> > analysis of callers, etc.
>> >
>> > Hence, the 24 ultimately.
>>
>> Can this land in -mm, or does this need further discussion?
>
> Grumble.  That share-the-rs_control-if-there's-already-a-matching-one
> thing looks like premature optimization to me :(
>
> I guess if we put this storage into the rs_control (rather than on the
> stack) then we'd have to worry about concurrent uses of it.  It looks
> like all the other fields are immutable once it's set up so there might
> be such users.  In fact, I suspect there are...

Exactly. :( This is the same conclusion tglx and I came to.

-Kees

-- 
Kees Cook
Pixel Security

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