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Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2018 14:07:57 -0800
From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
To: Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC v9 4/7] x86/entry: Erase kernel stack in syscall_trace_enter()

On Mon, Mar 5, 2018 at 1:40 PM, Linus Torvalds
<torvalds@...ux-foundation.org> wrote:
>
> This is more of the *smart* kind of behavior - I'm also perfectly
> willing to say that automatic variables should just always initialize
> to zero, exactly the same way static variables do.

.. and perhaps even a build flag or plugin to make sure that the
compiler doesn't remove "dead" writes to those automatic variables
that got allocated on the stack?

Honestly, with clearing of automatic variables, what stack leaks
really exists in practice that this all would help against?

                          Linus

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