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Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2017 21:05:59 +1100
From: "Tobin C. Harding" <me@...in.cc>
To: "Jason A. Donenfeld" <Jason@...c4.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v7] printk: hash addresses printed with %p

On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 06:00:21AM +0200, Jason A. Donenfeld wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 5:49 AM, Tobin C. Harding <me@...in.cc> wrote:
> > static_branch_disable(&no_ptr_secret) : Doesn't sleep, just atomic read
> > and set and maybe a WARN_ONCE.
> 
> Are you sure about that? I just looked myself, and though there is a
> !HAVE_JUMP_LABEL ifdef that does what you described, there's also a
> HAVE_JUMP_LABEL that takes a mutex, which sleeps:
> 
> static_branch_disable
>   static_key_disable
>     cpus_read_lock
>       percpu_down_read
>         percpu_down_read_preempt_disable
>           might_sleep

Hilarious, the actual function name is 'might_sleep' and I missed it. I
love being wrong, it means I'm learning. Thanks for taking the time to
point this out.

> > Now for the 'executes from process context' stuff.
> 
> Er, sorry, I meant to write non-process context in my original
> message, which is generally where you're worried about sleeping.

Tomorrow I'm going to re-read 'sleeping' sections from ldd3 and Love.

> > If the callback mechanism is utilized (i.e print before randomness is
> > ready) then the call back will be executed the next time the randomness
> > pool gets added to
> 
> So it sounds to me like this might be called in non-process context.
> Disaster. I realize the static_key thing was my idea in the original
> email, so sorry for leading you astray.

You bastard.

> But moving to do this in
> early_initcall wound up fixing other issues too, so all and all a net
> good in going this direction.

I wanted to know how to do this since Linus said 'boot time variable' in
one of the first comments on this topic. So I'm super glad you pointed
it out.

> Two options: you stick with static_branch, because it's cool and speed
> is fun, and work around all of the above with a call to queue_work so
> that static_branch_enable is called only from process context.
> 
> Or, you give up on static_key, because it's not actually super
> necessary, and instead just use an atomic, and reason that using `if
> (unlikely(!atomic_read(&whatever)))` is probably good enough. In this
> option, the code would be pretty much the same as v7, except you'd
> s/static_branch/atomic_t/, and change the helpers, etc. This is
> probably the more reasonable way.

I'm going to sleep, then re-reading these bits.

thanks Jason, appreciate your input big time.

Cheers,
Tobin.

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