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Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2017 19:21:45 -0800
From: Matthew Giassa <matthew@...ssa.net>
To: Jidong Xiao <jidong.xiao@...il.com>
Cc: kernel-hardening@...ts.openwall.com, KVM <kvm@...r.kernel.org>,
 Rik van Riel <riel@...hat.com>
Subject: Re: Introduction + new project: "rootkit detection using
 virtualization".

On 2017-02-10 03:18 PM, Jidong Xiao wrote:
> Sorry, I have to resend this again, as the original two emails were
> blocked because of the url.
>
> "Rootkit detection using virtualization" has been widely studied for a
> decade. Is the approach you are going to use different from all of these
> existing ones:
>
> "Survey: Virtual Machine Introspection Based System Monitoring and
> Malware Detection Techniques" - by Haofu Liao at University of Rochester.
>
> -Jidong

On 2017-02-10 05:37 PM, Rik van Riel wrote:
 >
 > One of the things that Matthew can do is build on
 > the read-only memory protections in the kernel, and
 > have the hypervisor enforce that the memory the kernel
 > marks as read-only is never written from inside the
 > virtual machine, until the next reboot.
 >
 > That seems like it might be a useful place to start,
 > since it would immediately make the other read-only
 > protections that people are working on much harder to
 > get around, at least inside virtual machines.
 >


My initial plan was to start with what Rik proposed, and focus on 
additional memory protections. With respect to long-term plans, a lot of 
my work/research so far has been focused on implementing a system 
similar to that presented by Payne et al (ie: Lares).

-Matthew Giassa

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