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Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2017 14:23:41 +0000
From: Jessica Frazelle <>
To: Thomas Gleixner <>
Cc: Kees Cook <>, Xing Gao <>, 
	LKML <>, 
	"" <>, 
	"Eric W. Biederman" <>
Subject: Re: /proc/timer_list leaks the real pids of the associated processes

Don't worry I wasn't saying it was useful.
It's unnecessary.

On Wed, Feb 8, 2017, 01:47 Thomas Gleixner <> wrote:

> On Tue, 7 Feb 2017, Jessica Frazelle wrote:
> > So I used to use this "feature" as a hack to see if something was
> > running in a k8s cluster or not because fluentd gives a lot of things
> > away.
> That file does not tell you at all whether something is running or not. It
> merily tells you that there are timers queued.
> > Runc basically decided to mask this file so it stopped happening
> > though. But I think namespace aware is the right decision.
> Unless you can come up with a real good argument why this is usefull beyond
> debugging and crystal ball hackery, it's going to go away.
> Thanks,
>         tglx

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